SaGa Frontier – Lute RNG Manipulation

Use niconico timing. Hard reset before Giants and Grand Mondo.

Reference: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9043640

Route (general idea):

• Don’t rename Lute

• Manhattan, Koorong

• Go to Shingrow
  • Like normal, but just DuelGun and no encounters

• Koorong, Scrap
  • Recruit Mei-Ling and T260
    • Talk to Mei-Ling from behind i think idk
    • Riki joins too
  • Junk Shop
    • Position:
      • Lute and Riki to 2nd
    • Equip Weapon:
      • T260: remove RepairKit
    • Sell DuelGun
      • CyberSuit x3
      • MirrorGlass x2
      • Thunderbolt x2
      • LethalGun x4
      • ExcelShield x3

• Koorong, Devin
  • Buy VictoryRune for Mei-Ling

• Kyo
  • Buy WingAmulet x2 (this makes the manip easier and shorter)

• Shrike
  • Recruit EngineerCar and Roufas

• Start Mondo shenanigans

• Mondo Base
  • Before Giant 1 (prob at base entry):
    • Position
      • T260, EngineerCar, Capt Hamilton, Roufas, Mei-Ling
    • Equip Weapon
      • T260: ArmorVest, ArmorVest, NakajimaBoard2, Thunderbolt, Thunderbolt, LaserKnife, SamuraiSword, MecBody
      • EngineerCar: LethalGun, EagleGun, MirrorGlass, MirrorGlass, LaserScope, MachineVulcan, RepairPack, Miniplant
      • Capt Hamilton: LethalGun, LethalGun, Osc-Sword, ExcelShield, nothing, nothing, nothing, CyberSuit
      • Roufas: LethalGun, AGUNI-SSP, ExcelShield, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, CyberSuit
      • Mei-Ling: nothing, nothing, ExcelShield, AGUNI-CP1, CyberSuit, nothing, WingAmulet, WingAmulet

• Giant 1:
  • Turn 1: Roufas Defend, T260 Thunderbolt + EngineerCar Crosshair combo, Mei-Ling SunRay + Capt Hamilton SharpShot
    • I have found two patterns for this turn that work. One is faster, the other is slower. I will try to get both working
  • Turn 2: same
  • Turn 3: T260 + EngineerCar same, Roufas + Capt Hamilton + Mei-Ling any gun
  • Capt Hamilton learns CrossShot
  • Roufas + Mei-Ling learn TwoGun

• Before Giant 2:
  • Equip Weapon:
    • Capt Hamilton: Powerbelt in 7th
  • Equip Ability:
    • Capt Hamilton: CrossShot in 2nd

• Giant 2:
  • Turn 1: T260 Thunderbolt + EngineerCar + Capt Hamilton CrossShot, Roufas + Mei-Ling Defend
  • Turn 2: T260 + EngineerCar same, Roufas + Capt Hamilton + Mei-Ling AnyGun combo (?)
  • Roufas + Mei-Ling learn CrossShot

• Before Grand Mondo:
  • Equip Weapon
    • T260: remove LaserKnife, SamuraiSword
    • EngineerCar: remove LethalGun, EagleGun
    • Roufas: PowerBelt in 7th slot
    • Mei-Ling: LethalGun in 1st
  • Equip Ability
    • Roufas: CrossShot, TwoGun
      • no clue where they go
    • Mei-Ling: CrossShot, TwoGun, VictoryRune
      • no clue where they go

• Grand Mondo
  • Form 1 = 17.5k | Form 2 = 33k – damage Form 1 took | Form 3 = 12.5k | Form 4 = 27.5k | Form 5 = 55k – damage Form 4 took
  • Turn 1: Mei-Ling VictoryRune on Roufas, T260 Thunderbolt + EngineerCar Crosshair + Roufas CrossShot + Capt Hamilton CrossShot combo
    • Total of 17.5k+ damage
    • Form change
  • Turn 2: same but Mei-Ling VictoryRune on Capt Hamilton, Capt Hamilton outspeeds Roufas
    • Total of 17.5k+ damage
    • Form change
  • Turn 3: EngineerCar Defend, Mei-Ling VictoryRune on EngineerCar, T260 Thunderbolt + Roufas CrossShot + Capt Hamilton CrossShot combo
    • Total of 12.5k+ damage
    • Form change
  • Turn 4: T260 Thunderbolt + Mei-Ling CrossShot + EngineerCar Crosshair + Captain Roufas CrossShot + Roufas CrossShot combo
    • idk damage here
  • Turn 5: same
    • Accumulative 27.5k+ damage
    • Mei-Ling dies
    • Form Change
  • Turn 6: T260 Thunderbolt + Capt Hamilton CrossShot + Roufas CrossShot combo
    • idk damage here, it’s just what’s left of phase 4
    • End fight

• TOTAL TIME SAVE: ~10 minutes
  • 33 -> 23 minutes

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Important values I guess:

• 0x46 = CrossShot (difficulty 21, check 7)

• 0x4A = TwoGun (difficulty 33, check 10)
  • idk the purpose for this being equipped. i imagine getting this makes sparking CrossShot on mei and roufas easier

• 0x42 = FocusShot (difficulty 24, check 2)
  • prob won’t use this but it happens in the tas so i’m just gonna get it anyway

• Giant’s spark level = 33

• Pickbird’s spark level = 1
  • Growth level = 5

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Route ideas:

• Don’t go for the exact same sparks as the TAS
  • I don’t have to get the sparks in that exact order, I just have to get them throughout both Giant fights

• Using something other than PowerBelt
  • Not going to work out since I don’t think there’s an item that’ll give me +20 STR while also being super accessible

• Manipping the gun moves somewhere else
  • Kill the Pickbird before going to the third floor, get to a specific spot near the door, hard reset, and re-enter the area and kill the bird with Implosion
  • Would make manipping Giant a lot easier since I only have to do CrossShot a couple of times and use the SanctuaryStone right after
    • Would force me to do a similar alignment for Grand Mondo manip

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TODO:

• Create a manip for Giant 1 (Currently doing)
  • Get the sparks
    • Add extra select-cancels to Mei-Ling’s turn?

• Create a manip for Giant 2
  • Must defeat Giant in 2 turns
  • Spark gun talents at the end of the fight while holding O

• Create a manip for Grand Mondo
  • Must defeat Grand Mondo in 6 turns
    • i have no clue if this will work. it’ll depend on two/cross and double-cross manips being possible or not
    • Phase 4 must last 2 turns
    • Mei-Ling must die on Turn 5

• Create routes that work on other versions of the game
  • I can most likely translate Giant manips from JP to US on PS2
  • I’ll have to create entirely new manips for PS1 and emulator