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SaGa Frontier – Lute RNG Manipulation

Use niconico timing. Hard reset before Giants (?) and Grand Mondo.

Reference: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9043640

Route (general idea):

  • Don’t rename Lute
  • Manhattan, Koorong
  • Go to Shingrow
    • Like normal, but just DuelGun and no encounters
  • Koorong, Scrap
    • Recruit Mei-Ling and T260
      • Talk to Mei-Ling from behind i think idk
      • Riki joins too
    • Junk Shop
      • Position:
        • Lute and Riki to 2nd
      • Equip Weapon:
        • T260: remove RepairKit
      • Sell DuelGun
        • CyberSuit x3
        • MirrorGlass x2
        • Thunderbolt x2
        • LethalGun x4
        • ExcelShield x3
  • Koorong, Devin
    • Buy VictoryRune for Mei-Ling
  • Kyo
    • Buy WingAmulet x2
  • Shrike
    • Recruit EngineerCar and Roufas
  • Start Mondo shenanigans
  • Mondo Base
    • Before Giant 1 (prob at base entry):
      • Position
        • T260, EngineerCar, Capt Hamilton, Roufas, Mei-Ling
      • Equip Weapon
        • T260: ArmorVest, ArmorVest, NakajimaBoard2, Thunderbolt, Thunderbolt, LaserKnife, SamuraiSword, MecBody
        • EngineerCar: LethalGun, EagleGun, MirrorGlass, MirrorGlass, LaserScope, MachineVulcan, RepairPack, Miniplant
        • Capt Hamilton: LethalGun, LethalGun, Osc-Sword, ExcelShield, nothing, nothing, nothing, CyberSuit
        • Roufas: LethalGun, AGUNI-SSP, ExcelShield, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, CyberSuit
        • Mei-Ling: nothing, nothing, ExcelShield, AGUNI-CP1, CyberSuit, nothing, WingAmulet, WingAmulet
  • Giant 1:
    • Turn 1: Roufas Defend, T260 Thunderbolt + EngineerCar Crosshair combo, Mei-Ling SunRay + Capt Hamilton SharpShot
      • I have found two patterns for this turn that work. One is faster, the other is slower. I will try to get both working
    • Turn 2: same
    • Turn 3: T260 + EngineerCar same, Roufas + Capt Hamilton + Mei-Ling AnyGun combo (?)
    • Capt Hamilton learns CrossShot
    • Roufas + Mei-Ling learn TwoGun
  • Before Giant 2:
    • Equip Weapon:
      • Capt Hamilton: Powerbelt in 7th
    • Equip Ability:
      • Capt Hamilton: CrossShot in 2nd
  • Giant 2:
    • Turn 1: T260 Thunderbolt + EngineerCar + Capt Hamilton CrossShot, Roufas + Mei-Ling Defend
    • Turn 2: T260 + EngineerCar same, Roufas + Capt Hamilton + Mei-Ling AnyGun combo (?)
    • Roufas + Mei-Ling learn CrossShot
  • Before Grand Mondo:
    • Equip Weapon
      • T260: remove LaserKnife, SamuraiSword
      • EngineerCar: remove LethalGun, EagleGun
      • Roufas: PowerBelt in 7th slot
      • Mei-Ling: LethalGun in 1st
    • Equip Ability
      • Roufas: CrossShot, TwoGun
        • no clue where they go
      • Mei-Ling: CrossShot, TwoGun, VictoryRune
        • no clue where they go
  • Grand Mondo
    • Form 1 = 17.5k | Form 2 = 33k – damage Form 1 took | Form 3 = 12.5k | Form 4 = 27.5k | Form 5 = 55k – damage Form 4 took
    • Turn 1: Mei-Ling VictoryRune on Roufas, T260 Thunderbolt + EngineerCar Crosshair + Roufas CrossShot + Capt Hamilton CrossShot combo
      • Total of 17.5k+ damage
      • Form change
    • Turn 2: same but Mei-Ling VictoryRune on Capt Hamilton, Capt Hamilton outspeeds Roufas
      • Total of 17.5k+ damage
      • Form change
    • Turn 3: EngineerCar Defend, Mei-Ling VictoryRune on EngineerCar, T260 Thunderbolt + Roufas CrossShot + Capt Hamilton CrossShot combo
      • Total of 12.5k+ damage
      • Form change
    • Turn 4: T260 Thunderbolt + Mei-Ling CrossShot + EngineerCar Crosshair + Captain Roufas CrossShot + Roufas CrossShot combo
      • idk damage here
    • Turn 5: same
      • Accumulative 27.5k+ damage
      • Mei-Ling dies
      • Form Change
    • Turn 6: T260 Thunderbolt + Capt Hamilton CrossShot + Roufas CrossShot combo
      • idk damage here, it’s just what’s left of phase 4
      • End fight
  • TOTAL TIME SAVE: ~10 minutes
    • 33 -> 23 minutes

Important values I guess:

  • 0x46 = CrossShot (difficulty 21, check 7)
  • 0x4A = TwoGun (difficulty 33, check 10)
    • idk the purpose for this being equipped. i imagine getting this makes sparking CrossShot on mei and roufas easier
  • 0x42 = FocusShot (difficulty 24, check 2)
    • prob won’t use this but it happens in the tas so idk
  • Giant’s spark level = 33

Route ideas:

  • Don’t go for the exact same sparks as the TAS
    • I don’t have to get the sparks in that exact order, I just have to get them throughout both Giant fights
  • Using something other than PowerBelt
    • PowerBelt has STR +20, so maybe there’s a better replacement in Junk Shop

TODO:

  • Create a manip for Giant 1 (Currently doing)
    • Odds are I’ll have to be in the same room as Giant for this to work
    • Spark gun talents at the end of the fight while holding O
      • As long as I get CrossShot on 1-2 and TwoGun on Roufas or Mei or both, then I’m chillin’
      • Odds are I’ll have to add extra frames to Mei’s action to get the sparks off
    • Turn 2: Giant IceSmash on any human (they block), Giant HeatSmash on T, T+Car Combo, Mei+Capt Combo
      • I have to delay some amount of frames on whichever human gets targeted or Mei so they block and the combos still go off
  • Create a manip for Giant 2
    • Must defeat Giant in 2 turn
    • Spark gun talents at the end of the fight while holding O
  • Create a manip for Grand Mondo
    • Must defeat Grand Mondo in 6 turns
      • i have no clue if this will work. it’ll depend on two/cross and double-cross manips being possible or not
      • Phase 4 must last 2 turns
      • Mei-Ling must die on Turn 5
  • Create routes that work on other versions of the game
    • I can most likely translate Giant manips from JP to US on PS2
    • I’ll have to create entirely new manips for PS1 and emulator

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